For my Appalachian lit aficionados, Grit Lit fans, and readers who aren’t afraid of the dark … I’m thrilled to share with you my conversation with author and professor Mitch James about his debut novel.

From the back cover, an intriguing blurb:

A dead mother. An auctioned childhood home. Loss in the womb of a coal mine.

Seldom Seen follows main character Brander, who encounters a “specter of a man who promises him that the answers to life are in Seldom Seen Mine, the largest coal mine in the United States.

With nothing holding him back, Brander … takes a job at Seldom Seen Mine, and fails at every attempt to amend his life, losing a friend, a lover, and maybe his mind.”

Reader friends, how does an author make good on such a blurb? I’ll tell you. With prose like this. I’m prefacing my first question for Mitch with one of my favorite passages in the novel. This is from early in the story, when Brander first enters Seldom Seen Mine:

Brander was surprised. The road was rather smooth and well-lit, the air stale but not dirty. They rolled along, everyone quiet. Brander stared around. The mine’s back had a skeletal structure of beams and crossbars and cribs, packed tight with backfill in places and all sealed up with gunite. It was surprisingly silent beneath the earth, the hum of the transport, the crunch of residue below the tires, the occasional whoosh of an air course. If not for the forced mechanization, there would be no sound, not like on the surface. Noise is life. But even free of men, the mine wasn’t dead, exactly; there was something, a kind of energy present in the long back road, an innate awareness, like the womb of a pulse-filled thing.

Mitch, welcome to Rust Belt Girl! Let’s dive in. The mine in this story works as much more than a compelling setting but a real character. I’d say we readers end up knowing as much about the mine as we do about Brander. How did you decide where to set this story? How did you learn so much about mines and mining? What kind of research did this entail?

I’m so happy to hear you’re engaging with the mine in that way because it is very much its own organism. It felt that way when writing the book, and it means a lot to hear that it felt that way to you as you read it. When I wrote the novel, I was up to my ears in rural Pennsylvania, working on farms, mountain biking old logging roads, kayaking rivers, and clearing land. I couldn’t get enough. I lived not far from the real Seldom Seen Mine. The research I did that allowed me to accidentally stumble into the idea for the novel also happened there. It was a perfect recipe—the need to express the region as I had experienced it as a transplant who had been there awhile, the need to tell Brander’s story, the need to imagine others’ lives and suffering alongside my own.

As for research, I read literary books on mining. There aren’t many. And I read short stories about mining in the U.S. and abroad. I read historical writing about mining at different periods in the U.S. in microfilm and microfiche. I watched a lot of YouTube videos, read instructional handbooks on mining equipment, found out who sold it, and found videos on how to operate it. I was friends with a mining engineer who guided me some.  A little bit of everything.   

Here at the Rust Belt Girl blog we’re a little fascinated with how place works in story. Place helps plots turn. Place also helps form characters. While a rural setting, I’d say that your Seldom Seen mine situates your novel squarely in Rust Belt lit territory. There are other commonly-appearing aspects to Rust Belt lit (or contemporary Grit Lit, writ large) that feature in your story: teenage pregnancy and the meth crisis for just two examples. Can you talk about how you explore such aspects of Rust Belt life and the characters living these lives without resorting to stereotypes in your novel (you do this well!)? 

I’m relieved to hear you don’t think my characters are stereotypical. I would never want that. That said, though, if I’m being honest, I think all fiction runs off a little bit of stereotype. I think most readers need to see characters that are somewhat familiar and that present themselves as equations they believe they can calculate, at least at the start. Lucky’s the gruff, crude, masculine man. Brander is the wounded, self-loathing Midwesterner. But beneath the stereotypes that reveal a small percentage of what makes up who we are is the rest of us, the best of us, the parts of us that are unique. Brander and Lucky also have these qualities within them. It’s my job to complicate their stereotypes by fleshing out the rest of their characters, for they drive the story. I see stereotypes everywhere, including in myself. But by seeing them, I can perceive their limits, their boundaries; I can peer around them to what else presents itself, and that’s gold as a writer, the stories everyone tells but doesn’t mean to.

Basically, look for the people within the people and write about that. Then be prepared to conscientiously employ a little stereotype to get the ball rolling.     

For those of us who are writers, ourselves, I wonder if you could take us through the process of crafting this novel. What was the first idea/image that came to you? When did you know you had to write this story? How long did it take? What’s your writing process like? We craft junkies want all the details!

The idea for the novel came to me when I was reading a translation of a Russian short story from the early 1800s, a story about a miner who encounters a ghost in a mine. The ghost starts manifesting in his life outside the mine until he goes insane and, if I remember correctly, kills himself. The story was so short. I wanted so much more. So I made it. 

When did I know I had to write the story? Immediately. I can always tell the difference between something I could write and something I must write. I had to write Seldom Seen.

As for the process, I woke up at 3 a.m., wrote a 1000 words a day five or so days a week, and had the first draft in a few months. Then it took me 10 years to publish the book, so you can imagine the revisions, drinking, and self-loathing that occurred after repeated failures. Brander had to get it from somewhere!  

I often wonder how Rust Belt lit will appear in American Literature textbooks a hundred years from now. Since you’re a college professor—maybe you wonder about this too? For me, my most formative American Literature course introduced me to William Dean Howells, the father of American realism. I’m not going to draw a perfectly straight line from American realism of the late 19th century to Southern Gothic of the early 20th century and the Grit Lit of today, but somebody could try. All that’s to ask where you see Seldom Seen fitting into the canon of American Literature? What are your reading/literary influences? What literary characters informed Brander, who—despite hard work and, yes, grit, fails, fails, and fails again?

It makes me feel a little pretentious to think of my work in any kind of canon. But my writing, including Seldom Seen, is influenced by myriad Appalachian, Midwestern, and American Western and South-Western writers, all rural and spread across the genres of fiction, nonfiction, and poetry. I would hope Seldom Seenwould be welcomed by the Appalachian literary community and rural literary communities more broadly. 

As for character influences, I have to be honest, I don’t know that I’ve ever consciously (though certainly subconsciously I have) created characters based on other characters about whom I’ve read. The characters begin with me, but they take over their story, and I just try and keep up and do justice through my writing to what they show me. I know that sounds mystic and woo-woo, but it’s the truth. For example, Lucky wasn’t a character I intended to have in the story, but when he showed up, he had plans, and I went along with them. Now, I can’t imagine the novel without him. 

As for the last part of your questions, I don’t need to read a book to see hard work, grit, and abundant failure in a person. I’ve witnessed it in the working poor rural communities I’ve lived in my entire life. But I want to make something clear; I’m not saying the working poor are failures or that their efforts are in vain. I was working poor until I was thirty-two years old. I worked fifty hours a week with multi-billion-dollar industries and still had no healthcare or money, and couldn’t afford a vacation or a car that could make it out of the county. Goals like a home instead of a rental, good health insurance, the ability to take a vacation or have a safe vehicle all create comfort and stability in one’s life. The working poor are grinding but failing to reach important thresholds like these and others. There are many reasons why, but amongst them are certainly socio-economic and political barriers. These folks, my mother and father, cousins, aunts, uncles, neighbors—they’ve taught me how to create characters with grit that fight and fight and fight.

This world has shown me how to write characters who fail.

And final question: What are you teaching, reading, and writing right now? What’s next?

I’m teaching various writing composition courses. I’m reading, gosh, so many random things. I feel like I read and read and finish nothing. I’m reading Larry McMurtry’s Horseman, Pass By; Marilynne Robinson’s Gilead; Adam Grims’ The Art and Science of Technical Analysis; Pema Chödrön’s When Things Fall Apart, and a textbook on world history because I screwed around too much in school when I was younger. I’m ashamed by how much basic knowledge I missed out on for being too stupid to know better. 

As far as writing goes, I just finished a book of poetry that a press requested and for which there is a promising chance of publication. I’m pitching a couple of short story collections and two novels and am kind of tinkering around on a new one, so if there are any publishers/agents out there who think my work and I might be a good fit, reach out. I’m doing some final revisions on two peer-reviewed articles due out soon as well. Keeping busy. 

Upcoming? I’m excited about the Lit Youngstown Fall Literary Festival. It’s one of my favorite events all year!  


Mitch James is a Professor of Composition and Literature at Lakeland Community College in Kirtland, OH and the Editor-at-Large at Great Lakes Review. Mitch is the author of the novel Seldom Seen: A Miner’s Tale (Sunbury Press) and has published works across the genres of short fiction, poetry, and academic scholarship. You can find his latest short fiction in Made of Rust and Glass: Midwest Literary Fiction Vol. 2Red Branch Review, and Bull; poetry at Shelia-Na-Gig, Watershed Journal, I Thought I Heard a Cardinal Sing: Ohio’s Appalachian Voices; and scholarship at Journal of Creative Writing Studies. Find more at mitchjamesauthor.com and on Twitter @mrjames5527. 


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14 thoughts on “My interview with Mitch James, author of Seldom Seen: A Miner’s Tale

  1. Thanks for the nuanced and fascinating conversation, you two! And a little surprised to learn that there aren’t many mining stories. It feels like its been part of so many lives and cultures.

    Also, I want to read that Russian short story now! It sounds like a great launching off point for a novel. Cheers!

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    1. Thank you for reading, Lani–and I’m super excited to get over to your newly-revamped blog and read more about your new home and life (and amazing vegan food) in Cambodia.

      Right!? You would expect more stories about mining–whole cultures have centered on that industry.

      And, yes! I bet that Russian short story is fantastic. I’ll nudge Mitch for the title. Great idea!

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      1. Awww, thanks.

        Yes, maybe there’s more stories about mining in films? Another interesting form of research that I don’t hear about. Or documentaries?

        In any case, I do love a Russian short story! xo

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  2. As always, Rebecca, I love your questions and am intrigued by Mitch’s answers. The questions about how you knew you needed to write the book and how Mitch replied made me go, “Um…wow, that’s impressive, and yeah, so that’s why I’m not an author! 🤣😂 The book sounds very interesting, I’ve added it to my TBR growing list.
    I hope all is well with you and your family!! I enjoy seeing your Facebook/Instagram photos and all the smiles!!! 🥰🤗😍 Take care, dear blogging buddy!

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    1. Thank you for being here, Shelley! Interviewing authors is such fun because the answers are always surprising to me. What was even more fun was that I got to meet the author–who is also a college professor–in person at the literary festival I attended last weekend. I sat at Mitch’s table at lunch, and he was joined by a couple other writers–one who had been an academic advisor, helping college students find their way; and one who is an engineering professor and researcher. It got me thinking about how our lives influence our writing and vice versa.

      Just like your life influences your beautiful photography! You know I love to get a glimpse of your life in WI through your photos.

      We’re all well here–approaching the busy holiday season with Halloween (maybe my guys’ last to trick-or-treat; next year will be high school!), then my guys’ birthday, and Thanksgiving, and then “Thanksmas,” when my sister will visit! (I can’t even think ahead to Christmas. Where does the time go?)

      Let’s hope we can both fit some good books in this fall! Hugs, Shelley!

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      1. As I read your first paragraph I could imagine how your eyes and smiles were lighting up as you listened to those writers talk at the table. I love it! 🥰😍😁

        Thank you for your words of encouragement about my WI photography. 🤗

        Aw, I remember the ‘last’ Halloween that our kids went trick-or-treating (3 years apart). With the twins you’ll have just one of those kind of years. Yay for a busy fall – enjoy every moment! I adore seeing you and your sister in photos at this time of the year, your smiles tell me how much fun you’re having together! Yes, time flies indeed!

        I hope to fit in some good books this fall/winter – I have a great list started thanks to you and your interview!

        Hugs to you dear blogging buddy! 🤗😊

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  3. Well if this doesn’t check ALL my boxes! You ask great questions, Rebecca. I have many favorite quotes, but this stands out: “I don’t need to read a book to see hard work, grit, and abundant failure in a person.” And I appreciate hearing the whole graph after. I enjoy getting to know an author, and your interviews go deep and often teach me something new, some new way to articulate an idea I’ve long held.

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    1. Thank you for being here, Kelly! Mitch has so many fascinating things to say about his book and writing in general. (And you know I love pulling it out of authors!) I really liked what he says about characters–how much we learn from real life, and the idea of stereotypes. Also, super fun, I got to meet Mitch in person at Lit Youngstown (you were so missed!). There was a great turnout of writers whose work would fall under the grit lit or Appalachian lit umbrellas. Really great stuff. Looking forward to discussing your new (and getting grittier!) novel soon!

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  4. This sounds like an awesome read. I’m always looking for something I can sink my teeth into. I’m adding this story to my TBR pile! Thanks for sharing this amazing author with all of us!

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  5. Excellent interview. You asked all the right questions and I’m fascinated by many things Mitch said. I loved the fact that he loved an eighteenth century ghost in a mine story and wrote this. What we read does influence us a lot. I also liked the whole theme of finding life’s answers in a mine. For some reason insanity, meth addiction and the other darker themes reminded me of books by Donald Ray Pollock and William Gay. The new Southern Gothic writers. And the author has definitely done his research. Writing a book in a few months and then working on it for ten years. I don’t think I’d have the patience!

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    1. Thank you! It was a really fun interview. And you’re right–what we read has a huge influence. You seem to be well-read in this genre. I’m glad I wasn’t too far off, thinking of Mitch’s work along the lines, thematically anyway, of Southern Gothic, even if a little farther north in setting. But then Pollack is from Ohio, something I didn’t know, and right near a (rural) epicenter of the meth crisis: Chillicothe. I’ve got his linked collection, Knockemstiff, on my TBR. Have you read it? Just so much good stuff to read. Enjoying your haibuns, especially, over at your blog.

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      1. Yes I have read Knockemstiff. It’s raw, brutal and surprisingly poignant. It’s also darkly humorous. It made me buy his other two books, The Devil All the Time and The Heavenly Table which are good, but not as good as Knockemstiff. Pollack explores poverty, drugs, sexuality, etc. Another great book is All the sinners bleed by SA Cosby. It explores race and is a serial killer mystery with Southern Gothic elements. It isn’t your typical thriller. Thank you so much! I’m glad you like my haibuns. I struggle a bit with the haiku portion though. But I love writing prose. Apparently Knockemstiff is an actual place in Ohio.

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      2. Yes, I looked it up! How awesome a town name is “Knockemstiff?” Thanks so much for sharing your knowledge of this genre–I have some reading to do! And, fwiw (I’m not a poet), I like your haikus. Thanks for this exchange. It’s so fun to discover new writers!

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