Stay- and Play-WP: Creativity is the writer’s cure for FOMO

Last month’s AWP (the Association of Writers & Writing Programs) Conference & Bookfair—think writer-prom—wasn’t in the cards for me this year. My rational brain knew this, but that doesn’t mean I didn’t suffer from some FOMO. Writer friends, the warm L.A. sun, and the lure of the unknown—will I meet the literary agent of my dreams in the hotel bar?!—are attractive elements, for sure. But I decided to save my pennies and hold out for next year’s event in nearby Baltimore. (Who’s in?)

Really, that March weekend, I hardly had time to wallow in my FOMO (the name of my upcoming memoir, stay tuned, ha). But seriously, the indomitable Justin Hamm, poet and super solid literary citizen, created StayWP, an online poet and writers conference, to slake our literary thirst, as it were. What’s better than poetry in your pajamas!? Here’s a sampling of what us nearly 100 participants from around the country enjoyed from Friday evening through Sunday evening:

  • Readings from novelists including Mark Ostrowski and poets including Sean Thomas Dougherty
  • Generative workshops with titles like “Where the Poetry Rises like Dough Workshop” and “Rooted in Place,” led by former Missouri Poet Laureate Karen Craigo, which I attended, and “Like it’s my job. (‘Cause it is): Writing, Motherhood, and the (Re)Formation of Work”
  • Enthralling discussions, including “In Dialogue,” “Casting Spells for the Future,” and “Power of the Poet Posse” (that’s a gang I could get behind!)

Saturday, my super talented friend Shemaiah Gonzalez (whose debut collection of essays launches next week!) hosted a generative workshop over Zoom. The hook: How do you even begin to get ideas on what to write: let alone something joyful? Looking at three pieces of writing, we participants came up with our own. I got a couple really good starts for essays and even a prayer (for our sweet neighbor who snowplows our drive in the winter, even before he does his cousin’s drive next door).

One of the prompts was so intriguing I’ll share it, paraphrased, with Shemaiah’s permission. We were asked to draw a sketch of a place we knew well: a home, or place of work or worship. Then, we were to pick a specific spot to interrogate. I think about writing about place a lot here on the blog, but Shemaiah made that importance plain: “We write about place because place is where we keep our stuff.” And, of course, the stuff we choose to keep is important to us. I ended up writing about the rattan rocking chair—the best seat—my dad would often occupy when our family would go out on to the porch to watch rain showers. (My kids think it’s hysterical we did this. But then I also truly enjoyed The Waltons. It was a different time.)

My weekend of creativity continued on Sunday, when I took one of my sons with me to hear Akron, Ohio, native poet Rita Dove (who received the National Humanities Medal from President Bill Clinton the National Medal of Arts from President Barack Obama—the only poet ever to receive both medals) at the Baltimore Museum of Art. (Thank you to co-sponsor Johns Hopkins Center for Talented Youth!) The little I knew of Dove, I learned from talking with Akron’s own David Giffels in an interview right here at Rust Belt Girl. This poetry reading was my son’s first, and so now he is ruined for all other poetry readings, I’m afraid. But what a way to go down!

As I’m wont to do, I took a notebook and jotted images I liked from the poems she read. Here are several lines from Dove’s beautiful work, which I smushed together like a found poem, a found Dove poem:

scabbed like a colt, our stuttering pride
my Cleveland cousins, hachety smiles
we were a musical lantern
tired of singing for someone else
what you bear is a lifetime of song
if you can't be free, be a mystery

There are few things that improve with age. Wine is one. Hutzpah is another, and don’t you know my hand was the first that shot up during the Q&A with Dove? Since I knew I’d be writing about this reading for Rust Belt Girl, I asked her what it meant to her poetry to be from the Rust Belt. Her answer was really interesting. She talked about understanding and appreciating work and its value from her family members and neighbors. She talked about the value of diversity, including a strong Hungarian presence among the immigrant groups in her part of town. A singular place, she also noted the term that makes Akron its own unique think: the “devil’s strip” for the tree lawn or berm between the sidewalk and the street. What do you call that strip, where you’re from?

Dove also talked about her journey from aspiring musician to poet. (She still plays the cello.) She noted that she was very shy and didn’t want to get up in front of people and so turned to words. Ha. There we were, all 200 or so of us. She later learned to play the viola de gamba and took voice lessons, and learned to sing opera, which helped her to “embody the words” in her poetry. She has worked with musicians on song cycles, collaborations that helped her feel “less afraid of being bold.”

I’ll end there. I know I wish for that. Here’s to words in poems and in song—and to being bold.

Now it’s your turn: tell me, if you’re a writer, have you been to AWP? Do you plan on attending next year? How do you quash FOMO in your creative life or otherwise? And how do you tap into your boldest self?

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Ohio is Ohio, and I love it

You are forgiven if you’re not up on the middle school slang that has redefined the word “Ohio” (my beautiful native state) as cringey or weird.

Does that mean the writing from Ohio authors or about Ohio places is also weird? In some cases (and often my favorite cases) yes.

It has been more than a minute, Rust Belt Girl followers, and I appreciate you for hanging on. Busy days around here with a book project going and essays popping up here and there. And of course there’s work-work to contend with. And my teenagers who keep me hip (surely that’s not a word they’d use) through their generation’s reinvention of language, music, and fashion. (A whole wardrobe of hooded sweatshirts and oversized black jeans, anyone?)

But I’m thrilled to share with you my latest essay, which is part essay and part book review. The book? Matthew Meduri’s debut novel Collegiate Gothic. Part satirical campus novel, part crime procedural, and part Italian architectural treatise, this one is quite fun (and, yes, a little Ohio.)

I’d love it if you checked out my essay–“Campus Weird: Collegiate Gothic Skewers Academia (and Ohio) in Fine Form” at Belt Magazine. (Bonus points for identifying the Ohio college campus building in the photo. I only know because a friend told me.)

Then, go check out Matthew’s novel over at Bordighera Press.

What have you been reading and writing lately, readerly and writerly friends?

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My interview with author William Heath

William Heath, born in Youngstown, grew up in the nearby town of Poland. A graduate of Hiram College, he has a Ph.D. in American Studies from Case Western Reserve University and has taught American literature and creative writing at Kenyon, Transylvania, Vassar, the University of Seville, and Mt. St. Mary’s University, where the William Heath Award is given annually to the best student writer. He has published four poetry books: The Walking Man, Steel Valley Elegy, Going Places, and Alms for Oblivion; three chapbooks: Night Moves in Ohio, Leaving Seville, and Inventing the Americas; three novels: The Children Bob Moses Led (winner of the Hackney Award), Devil Dancer, and Blacksnake’s Path; a work of history, William Wells and the Struggle for the Old Northwest (winner of two Spur Awards and the Oliver Hazard Perry Award); and a collection of interviews, Conversations with Robert Stone. He received a Lifetime Achievement Award from Hiram. He and his wife Roser live in Annapolis, Maryland. 

Let’s begin with a taste of “Steel Valley Elegy” from William Heath’s poetry collection of the same name. Here’s the first stanza:

I speak Steel Valley American. Once mills
lined the Mahoning River from Youngstown
Sheet and Tube’s Jeannette Blast Furnace
on Brier Hill to Republic Steel in Struthers.
Coal intensified to coke turned iron ore
into molten ingots that were rolled into slabs,
scarfed free of impurities, shaped for strength:
bridges to span waters, girders for skyscrapers,
tanks, ships, guns, and shells to win World War II,
machines and factories for our bounty.

What I love about this poem is how the poet unearths the beauty (and more obvious power and destruction) present in industry, a beauty borne by the transformation of a thing, like dirty coal, to another thing, like shining steel. 

The transformation is accomplished by people and fire, which always lends to these scenes of the mills a sense of the miraculous for me, something to be found among the gods of Olympus. And if I spin out this analogy, steelworkers are mini gods then, prone to falling from on high, of course—so much transformation and story in this history of our shared native place.

William, you are from one of my favorite adopted cities, Youngstown, Ohio (“Little Chicago,” as you call it in the above poem). Can you tell us about your Rust Belt upbringing and how it perhaps sparked your creative work? Or has informed it? Did you dream of becoming a writer and teacher when you were young? How did place factor into those dreams?

I was born in Youngstown in 1942, spent my first six years in Gerard. I have few memories of that other than a big snow that we kids tunneled under and riding a neighbor’s large dog. My parents, Oberlin graduates, were teachers; my dad became principal at Hays Junior High in Youngstown; my mom substituted a lot in a variety of subjects. The family moved to Poland, a small New England style town nearby where my memories begin. Like most boys I was interested in sports and girls, not necessarily in that order; the poems that start off Steel Valley Elegy are based on my boyhood. For better or worse, I was better at sports than girls, especially basketball and track. Poland High won the sectional tournament, which meant beating the best Youngstown teams, then lost to Warren in the next round (I was guarded by the future Ohio State and Cleveland Browns star Paul Warfield). In track I qualified in the high jump for the state tournament in Columbus, where I was an also-ran against that top competition (no small school/large school divisions then).

When I was a boy I wanted be a high school history teacher and a basketball coach, then at Hiram College I widened my perspectives: switched from Republican to Democrat, decided to become an English professor. Since teenage boys love to brag, what was most notorious about my area were Mafia wars to control a gambling game called “the bug,” resulting in many bombings, at least a dozen deaths; Youngstown was dubbed “Little Chicago.” I never witnessed first-hand any of that violence, but when I was visiting my cousin in posh Shaker Heights, I saw the aftermath of a shooting described in “A Hit in Shaker Heights.” I once was a suspect in a robbery at a boathouse where I worked in the summers that brought me to the dreaded Youngstown police station for a lie-detector test, see “An Inside Job.” In sum, I lived a fairly typical small town Midwest boyhood, with the usual teenage antics that feature in some of my poems, while next door was a thriving steel city with a lot of good-paying union jobs but also a gangland war between the Cleveland and Pittsburgh mobs.

Your literary influences are many. With a Ph.D. in American studies, you became a professor, poet, and novelist. Your 1995 novel, The Children Bob Moses Led, is about the civil rights moment in Mississippi. Mississippi is fairly far afield from your Ohio beginnings. Can you talk about the inspiration for this historical novel? 

After majoring in history with a minor in English at Hiram, I went to Case Western Reserve University in American Studies. As a college teacher, I realized my students knew little about the civil rights movement. I began my writing career as a poet, then switched to writing fiction, and decided to write a novel about Freedom Summer in 1964, when college students, mostly white, went to Mississippi where three young men were murdered by the Klan shortly after they arrived. That courageous effort was a moral high water mark of my generation, and I wanted to write a true account of it. Bob Moses (a charismatic Black man from Harlem who had studied philosophy as a graduate student at Harvard) was the key SNCC leader, indeed he was a legend in the movement; he died a few years ago and lamentably is largely forgotten. I had participated in the March on Washington in 1963, not Freedom Summer; I knew about the civil rights movement but not nearly enough. I devoted many years of research to the project, my most important archives were the SNCC papers at the Martin Luther King Center in Atlanta and the invaluable Sixties files at the Wisconsin Historical Society in Madison. My wife and I made several trips to Mississippi where I interviewed Black and white participants in Freedom Summer. I have a wealth of stories about those experiences, one is recounted in Alms for Oblivion, “Preacher Knox.” Several of my other poems about the South appeared in The Dead Mule School of Southern Literature, my favorite name for a poetry magazine.

I like to think that my skills as a novelist, historian, literary critic, and poet enrich each genre.

The Children Bob Moses Led was published by Milkweed Editions who made it their feature fall selection and nominated it for the Pulitzer Prize. It did win the Hackney Award for best novel, was reissued as a paperback, and then re-printed by NewSouth Books (now a part of the University of Georgia Press) in a twentieth-anniversary edition. It has sold the most of my novels and has been used in classes from junior high to graduate studies. My multi-award winning history book, William Wells and the Struggle for the Old Northwest, has also sold well and remains in print. Both books epitomize my interest in American Studies, since I was able to draw upon my extensive interdisciplinary training to cover multiple aspects of the topic to make them valid history and vivid literature. I think my early years as a poet also served to give my prose a distinctive tone. I like to think that my skills as a novelist, historian, literary critic, and poet enrich each genre.

You began publishing your poetry in the 60s. Can you talk about the differences between writing the novel and writing poetry? Have you found that there are seasons of life for each, when you are drawn to one form or the other? Or is it that the subject matter demands the form? Can you talk a little about your creative intuition or your creative process, or both?

My first teaching job was at Kenyon College, then the epicenter of contemporary writing thanks to John Crowe Ransom’s Kenyon Review, which drew a host of talented students and teachers to that lovely campus in rural Ohio. I attended his 80th birthday party and met several famous authors, including Robert Lowell, Kenneth Burke, Peter Taylor, et. al. Carl Thayler, an older student who had been a bit player in Hollywood films and was intensely interested in poetry, also brought writers to the campus—that is how I met Toby Olson and Paul Blackburn, who encouraged me to write. For the first fifteen years of my college teaching career I wrote mainly poetry and published some hundred poems in various little magazines, but that did not carry much weight when I came up for new contracts and tenure. Thus I went from Kenyon, to Transylvania (where my poetry writing improved markedly), to Vassar; in 1979 I was selected as a Fulbright professor of American literature at the University of Seville. 

During phase one of my poetry career, I was influenced by William Carlos Williams, James Wright, Philip Levine, as well as other poets who wrote free verse with a sharp-eyed realism about the gritty side of American life. I was drawn to the idea that poets should be grounded in specific images that evoke the world of the poem and resonate with readers. I read poetry widely in those days and had strong opinions about many poets. At some point, however, I made a major mistake: I decided that the next poem I wrote should be better than the previous one; not surprisingly that proved counterproductive. I also was frustrated that my focus on poetry stood in the way of obtaining a permanent place in my profession. At Vassar, I solicited comments from contemporary poets I admired, but did not know personally; as a result I received high praise from James Wright, Philip Levine, Richard Wilbur, and others that was certainly encouraging, although their kind words did not move the tenure committee at Vassar. 

More than one critic has noted your adept storytelling in your poetry. Do you come to a poem with a story in mind you’d like to tell? Or do you usually begin with an image and a story emerges from it? Can you point to a poem of yours I haven’t mentioned here that tells a particularly necessary or good story?

I like to tell stories, covering a wide range of topics; I think that is one of my strengths. My first poetry book, containing the best of my early work, The Walking Man, opens with “The Boy Who Would Be Perfect,” a true story based on a summer I spent as a counselor at a camp in the Adirondacks teaching boys from wealthy Jewish families in Great Neck, Long Island, how to play tennis. As it turned out, two of ten boys in my cabin were mentally disturbed, something I had not been told; they proved to be very difficult.  I conflate the two boys into one in the poem, which is true to what transpired. That summer I also took my campers at night to see black bears (they didn’t believe bears existed anywhere near them) feeding at a garbage dump—but that’s another story yet to become a poem. 

When I returned to writing poetry following my retirement in 2007, I realized that many of the stories I liked to tell had poetic possibilities—a particular focus and sharp images—so I turned them into poems. Steel Valley Elegy opens with autobiographical poems that tell stories; my next book, Going Places, features stories about the two years I lived in Seville, the next section contains poems based on the years (when you add up all the extended visits) I spent in or near Barcelona, where my wife was born. My most recent book, Alms for Oblivion, has narrative poems, a few several pages long. Some narrative poems are not from personal experience, rather on the experiences of my generation, such as “Chicago 1968,” “Bringing the War Home,” “Shut It Down,” “At the Commune,” and “Jail, No Bail.” As with The Children Bob Moses Led, they are designed to put the Sixties into critical perspective.  

Your most recent poetry collection, Alms for Oblivion, is broken into six parts. Part II is titled Flyover Country. The poem by the same name concludes: “We folks down below look up / and out … Beware of our resentment.

Reading that poem, of course the notion of “flyover journalism” comes to mind, when a place’s stories are told by outsiders. As I am like you, a NE Ohio native living on the East Coast, I’m wondering, how do you keep at least somewhat rooted to your native region in your work? Through memory and history? Do you return to Ohio? Are there literary organizations, local news outlets, or podcasts you seek out for a current, local perspective?

What is your relationship now to the notion of Flyover Country, and why do you think it keeps popping up in your work, despite having lived on the East Coast for many years now?

As you note, “Flyover Country” tries to capture how people in the Midwest feel about the rest of the nation looking down their noses at them. This is not always true, but has become an article of faith; the resulting “resentment” helped lead to the disastrous, in my view, reelection of Donald Trump, who has no interest in or understanding of the Midwest but an uncanny ability to play upon people’s fears and anxieties. My parents have been dead for years, but my sister still lives in Delaware, Ohio, and I visit her every year or so. I have attended the Buckeye Book Fair in Wooster, the Midwest Historians Convention in Grand Rapids, the Youngstown Lit festival, and the Ohioana Book Festival in Columbus. That enables me to keep in touch with what is happening on the ground in Ohio and elsewhere (I also lived in Kentucky for five years).  I must admit I am delighted to do a Rust Belt Girl interview, because like you I love the Midwest (even if I sometimes weep for it). 

For better or worse I am not a high tech person; my cell phone stays in my car, I respond to Facebook posts but rarely post myself; I’m on Linkedin but never use it; I have never twittered; when asked for my twitter name I sometimes respond “Curmudgeon.” This dates me, I know, yet I really would welcome poetry lovers who are active on the internet, if they are so inclined, to promote my work. I would love to see one of my poems go viral! George Bilgere, a poet we both admire, did include “The Vet” on his wonderful Poetry Town recently. And Grace Cavalieri featured me on her “The Poet and the Poem” series from the Library of Congress. 

Before you lived in Maryland, you and your wife, the novelist Roser Caminals-Heath, lived in Europe and traveled extensively. While remaining rooted to your past, your poetry takes the reader to foreign shores, as it were. “The Starlings of Rome” is one I particularly like. Here are the first few lines:

At setting sun hundreds of thousands
swoop and swarm over the Vatican
and other vital organs of the city.

What I notice in these lines is a simplicity and a precision in the language and—and I might be reaching—a return to the body. We’re talking about starlings making their ethereal patterns in the sky; yet “organs” brings us back to ourselves, back to earth then. Do you see it this way? I’d love to know how you developed your poetic style that is at once reaching and reachable, if that makes sense.

I’m grateful you asked about my wife Roser, who as you mention is a distinguished writer in her native Barcelona. She writes in Catalan, a distinct language from Spanish, and has published ten highly praised novels, one won the prestigious Saint Joan prize. Steel Valley Elegy contains poems set in the United States, while its companion volume, Going Places, is set abroad. I met Roser when I was a Fulbright in Seville and she was at the University of Barcelona. For years we spent our summers at Vilanova i la Geltru on the coast, then her parents moved to Frederick, MD until their deaths. We love to travel, not only in Catalonia, which Roser considers a separate country from Spain, but extensively in Europe and elsewhere, including Russia, Morocco, Egypt, Turkey, Canada, the Dominican Republic, Guatemala, and Mexico. Our most exotic trip was to Nuku Hiva, in the Marquesan Islands, for a Melville conference. A few poems in Going Places are set in countries I have not visited in person, only in my imagination. Especially in my poems set in Spain and Catalonia, I try to speak not like a tourist and more like someone with personal knowledge of a people and place.

As you mention concerning “The Starlings of Rome,” my poems are based on concrete images and thus have “body.” The starlings make marvelous spirals in the sky, suggesting a spiritual dimension, while their droppings present a major problem. It’s that double-sided nature of life that appeals to me.  The “Starlings” poem is part of a sequence detailing how strangely other creatures sense the world with its good and bad vibrations. Wallace Stevens once said “the greatest poverty is not to live in the physical world,” and William Carlos Williams added “No ideas / but in things.” Hence the human body and the “body” of the world are essential to me in poetry, which should draw on all of our senses—taste, touch, sight, hearing, smell. In my fiction, I also ground my work in a lot of physical detail, “How the weather was,” as Hemingway once said.  Hence I keep my characters in fiction, and the speakers in my poems, in voice, each with a distinctive way of saying things.  

With eco-fiction booming and nature poetry always compelling, I read with interest “The World at Low Tide,” which feels like a nature poem and cautionary tale all at once. Here’s the first stanza:

High above spruce trees
the rosy breast of a soaring gull
catches the glory of the risen sun.
Seabirds skim over tide flats
waiting to feed on what waves
bring in and leave behind.

Can you talk about the inspiration for this poem or other nature poems of yours? Does living on the crowded coast put into stark relief our relationship to the water and earth we call home? How does this place infuse your poetry?

Although I’m from the landlocked Midwest, I am very fond of coastal settings, especially the Mediterranean but also here in Annapolis on the Chesapeake Bay where we have lived since 2022. Every summer we go to Lewes, Delaware, for a week at the beach; and in the winter to Key West (I have written poems about both places). As Melville wrote, “meditation and water are wedded forever,” which also brings to mind a haunting Robert Frost stanza:

They cannot look out far
They cannot look in deep
But when was that ever a bar
To any watch they keep.

These lines capture the poignant, sometimes troubling, limited nature of us human beings. I must admit the lines are more troubling nowadays, since Trump’s re-election. I had hoped for more from my fellow citizens than they were able to give.  As I say in one of my yet to be published poems on the election: “we are not / who we think we are / or pretend to be.”

Coastal areas do draw out a meditative dimension in us, I think, we gain a deep sense of time since we know the ocean and its waves have been doing the same thing for eons, and will continue to do so. Not much seems to change in the short term, but in the long run we know that continents shift position, species come and go, and thanks to climate change and human limitations, our species may not be around as long as we like to assume it will. I try to write poems that capture something of the processes that surround us: how do I love thee / let me count the waves, as the poet might have said. 

As a professor for many years, what poem did you most love to teach—of your own, of another poet, either historical or contemporary? And why?

When I taught poets I admired like Whitman, Dickinson, Williams, Stevens, Frost, et. al., I used to look first for short poems—I call them “program poems”—that suggest what the poet’s sensibility and assumptions are. Williams’ “The Red Wheelbarrow” poem, for example, is by no stretch a major poem, yet it is a concise introduction to what he is up to in terms of images; then I would move on to poems I did consider major like “To Else,” the one that begins “beat hell out of it / beautiful thing.” A favorite statement about what makes a poem good poetry is by C. S. Lewis, which goes something like “To Write a great love poem, you may or may not have been greatly in love, but you must love language.” “On Poetry,” in Alms for Oblivion, is one of my attempts to say what poets should aim for. I would place my own poems in a tradition that goes back to Catullus, whose blunt, often obscene poems broke through social and poetic decorum to strike us with an irrepressibly lively human voice. Another favorite, by the way, is Keats’ “What shocks the virtuous philosopher delights the chameleon poet.” While opinions will always differ, I do believe that some poems are much better than others, and I made an effort to teach poems I thought were a poet’s best (I often disagree with those selected for anthologies). As a poet I use the analogy of baseball: a single is a poem, a double is a good poem, a triple is a very good poem, and a homerun is, well, a homerun. The more students are taught to appreciate those “homeruns” the better. Value judgments are relative, but they not absolutely relative.

I’m enthralled by creative couples. How do you and your wife inform each other’s work or creative life?

Contrary to popular belief about literary couples, my wife and I are not jealous of each other’s work and we see ourselves as co-conspirators in our life and our writing. Unfortunately, because I know very little Catalan, I can offer her no help with her prose, although I do serve as a sounding board for her ideas as a novel is in progress. I hope that I am of help in that way. Roser, on the other hand, is of enormous help to me. She reads drafts of all my work. I try to give her what I consider a polished draft—when it returns from her red pen I realize how wrong I was—and this serves as a welcome stimulus to try harder, as revision follows revision. I believe that the best poetry and fiction are written in a kind of reverie, producing rough drafts that must then be revised with lucidity. Vladimir Nabokov used the analogy that his pencils outlive his erasures. Everything I write is revised numerous times, a process I find very satisfying, since I always feel even the smallest changes make a manuscript better. I am astonished and appalled by the notion that all works of literature are created equal and value judgments are of no value. Why would any author strive so hard to write as well as possible if that were the case? When I wrote fiction, Roser often accompanied me on my research trips, some quite memorable like our various visits to Mississippi—Indiana, not so much—and I always enjoy going with her to Barcelona for her media interviews and other PR events related to the publication of one of her novels. 

What are you reading and writing right now?

When I retired in 2007 to devote myself to writing, the first ten years of that resulted in a novel, Devil Dancer, begun during my Fulbright years in Spain then revised multiple times before coming out as a book.  During the decade I also published a historical novel, Blacksnake’s Path: The True Adventures of William Wells, and a history of his life, William Wells and the Struggle for the Old Northwest (University of Oklahoma, 2015), which won two Spur Awards from the Western Writers of America and the Oliver Hazard Perry Award for military history. It is still available in paperback and sells well at book fairs and my talks at history centers. I didn’t devote myself fully to writing poetry again until 2017. Since then I have published some 350 poems and three full-length poetry books plus three chapbooks. 

My next poetry book, Not My Country, will open with poems about the dangers Donald Trump presents to our democracy. While I think my poems stand out for my distinctive voice, the way I move a poem down the page, and the wide range of topics I dramatize, I believe poets are obligated to reflect what’s happening around them. The re-election of a person who is literally insane, with an acute case of malignant narcissism, presents a daunting challenge for our country that must be addressed; I plan a series of viable poems that depict the situation. Other sections of the book will deal with my usual topics: autobiography, meditations, Americana, travels abroad, and so forth. Some titles already published that will appear in my next book suggest that most of my poems won’t be about our dire political situation: “Killer Whales Attack Yachts Off Gibraltar,” “Trigger Warnings,” “Men’s Book Club,” “Walt and the Supremes,” “Prime Time,” “Bass Man,” “A Trip to Montreal,” and “Big Man on Campus.”

Since I’ve returned to writing poetry full time, my reading habits have changed. In my first incarnation as a poet I read as many poets as I could to find out whom to admire and emulate while keeping my own signature. I wrote a short poem about the process: “read a lot of poetry / until it starts / coming out your ears / then listen.” During the decades I was mainly a novelist, historian, and literary critic, my reading was in those genres, while now I read mostly poetry and books that I think might stimulate my poetic imagination. A good example of the latter is Ed Yong’s An Immense World, which inspired me to write a sequence of nature poems that appear in Alms for Oblivion. Some of the poets I’m reading nowadays are old friends, David Salner, Holly Bergon, Hope Maxwell Snyder, and Kit Hathaway, as well as new discoveries like George Bilgere, Bob Hicok, and David Stevenson. I also make good use of my extensive library that contains the selected or collected poems of many important poets. 

I always keep in mind the words of William Carlos Williams that “it is difficult to get / the news from poems,” as well as his lines addressed to an old woman: “I wanted to write a poem / that you could understand / for what good is it to me / if you can’t understand it?” Most people are baffled by poetry, and go into a sort of panic mode when presented with poems to read. My poems are not “obscure,” I write in the American idiom in lines that are concise, direct, and clear. My poems often, as we noted, tell stories, and their images speak to each other, providing coherence and resonance. This year I once again will be working to open my imagination to new poems and trying to find the best words to bring them to life.  

For more info, see www.williamheathbooks.com 

Signed copies of William Heath’s books can be at Bill’s Books, a part of abebooks.com.  


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Lit Fest ’24 Rundown

Or, the post you’ve been waiting for, maybe.

Last month, I attended Lit Youngstown‘s 8th annual Fall Literary Festival. From modest beginnings, the writing conference has grown to welcome some 200 attendees each year. Proud to be among them, I served on the planning committee for a couple years, have served as a session moderator, read my own creative work, sat on an editors’ panel, and, this year, engaged a featured writer in a conversation about her writing craft, process, and life.

I’ve met most of my writer friends through this literary festival. (You’re probably nodding your head, reading this. Such joy those in-between conversations, Elise, Susan, Jeremy!) Writers come to this conference for the genuine connections, the generative craft sessions, inspiring creative readings, and Youngstown pizza (or maybe that’s just me?). I was thrilled to walk away having experienced an abundance of all of the above again this year!

Can I entice you to make the trip, next year? Let’s hope this rundown does just that. (And, bring your friends.)

Day 1

My first day of the festival began with meeting Rachel Swearingen, Chicago-based author of the award-winning story collection How to Walk on Water. After reading through her stunning book, twice, I had a feeling Rachel would have a lot to teach fiction writers, like me, about the craft of writing–and the inspiration behind it. Her morning session, “The More the Merrier: Juggling Multiple Characters in a Single Scene” tackled one of those age-old fiction-writing conundrums: how to make the dinner party (or other large group) scene sing, rather than sink.

Main takeaway: big group scenes can invite drama and suspense (think: Shirley Jackson’s “The Lottery”) but things can go awry when the writer hasn’t anchored the scene. Especially helpful to me was Rachel’s discussion of panning out and zooming in, as if we’re creating a scene on film. Featuring compelling examples from classic and contemporary stories, Rachel illustrated how great writers make scenes active to “write toward change.” For those of us (all of us?) who sometimes struggle to create a propulsive plot, these tips promised to help us give our stories the jhuzh they need!

One thing I love about literary festivals is the opportunity for literary escape. (And not just geographically.) I make it my mission to get outside my usual genres and comfort zones. I’m not joking when I say it’s only been a few years since I learned what ekphrastic writing was. So, taking part in an ekphrastic poetry workshop is far outside my usual lane. Of course, I jumped at the chance, when I learned that award-winning poet (and dancer!) Ama Codjoe was leading a workshop titled “Doorways into Ekphrasis” held at the Butler Institute of American Art, right across the street from our festival headquarters. (Confession time: I usually play hooky for one session of a festival or conference to visit a museum or gallery or other local arts hotspot; this time, I didn’t have to.)

Crowdsourcing time: help me find the name and artist of the piece I wrote about, please! Yes, I stared at a stunning piece of transparent, aqua glass sculpture–two rectangular columns, one larger and standing, one smaller, reclined–and didn’t write down the name of the piece or artist. The three minutes we took to examine the art we chose, without jotting a note–which should be 10 minutes, says Ama–honestly felt like hours. But this works, folks.

It’s fascinating now to look back at the notes I made after my examination and see how I went from describing the artwork’s material–ruined glass, panes shattered, shards–to the artwork’s position and pose–teetering, discarded, toppled–to what the pose might suggest: he has dropped his partner, who does not shatter, small glass tower sheared. Finally, I wrote a little in lines, inspired by the art:

How many the pains of art we 
layer and nudge and shimmy?
How shiny this body, this instrument,
until we lay it down, sharded,
but not discarded, dust to dust,
sand to glass to sand.

For my last session of the day, I caught up with a couple writers I follow on social media but had yet to meet in person, so I was thrilled (and got their books I brought from home signed–yes, I’m that kind of literary nerd). The prolific and super generous Sean Thomas Dougherty and Jennifer Sutherland (her debut collection is Bullet Points: A Lyric) are poets who spend some time writing in the “slipstream,” in between literary genres. They and Sarah Carson and Cynthia Maria Hoffman read from their work and talked about what writing in between genres (is it a poem, nonfiction flash, a prose poem?) means for their work and creative outlooks. I was so rapt by the writers’ creative readings that I didn’t take many notes, but I did take this gem down from Sean Thomas: “We push against genre” so forms can (paraphrasing here) dissolve and come together again to address neurodiversity, trauma, and more.

Day 2

I am often reluctant to read my creative work in public. Poetry is meant to be read aloud; not so fiction. However, I thought it might be instructive to read from a blog post I wrote here at Rust Belt Girl and then read the resulting scene that appeared in a story of mine published in Great Lakes Review last year. Like public journaling, I find blogging fertile ground for planting the seeds of story. Pro tip: keep your reading short and everyone will like it.

Thank goodness I read first, because there is no way I’d want to follow memoirist Kelley Shinn or poet Rikki Santer, whose readings were nothing short of incredible. Kelley is the author of the memoir, The Wounds That Bind Us, which I bought at the bookstore directly after her reading from it (I got the last signed copy: conference win!). Rikki read from her collection, Resurrection Letter: Leonora, her Tarot, and Me, which was inspired by the surrealist painter Leonora Carrington–fascinating stuff.

Later that day, Rachel and I joined “in conversation” in a small theater to discuss her stunning debut story collection and its influences: from contemporary art to cult film to a creepy old radio program. I wondered if she went searching for inspiration or if it found her (both). I wondered how her growing up with her family in rural Wisconsin impacted her work (a lot). I am seriously kicking myself for not recording this conversation, but also it would have been a shame to interfere with the intimacy of the conversation. Those of us who write know that it can be a sacred space, and so to share a deep conversation about the inspiration behind the writing work can also feel so meaningful–you hate to break the spell.

Craft takeaways from Rachel: her process involves repeating steps: drafting, reverse outlining, noting of turns in the narrative, noting of where things get sticky or stick out–and here, an earlier Rachel might have smoothed those over, but now she explores them–and an opening up and rooting out of those interesting sticky spots.

In chatting, Rachel and I discovered that we’re both at work on novels set in Nordic/Scandinavian places (must be a Midwest thing). We shared inspiring writers: mine, Dorthe Nors; hers, Jon Fosse.

I was also inspired by Rachel’s fierceness when it comes to trying new genres on for size–in her case, the screenplay.

And the last big takeaway from Rachel, which I jotted during our conversation and aim to never forget (ahem, there’s been a reason it’s taken me three weeks to write this rundown): “Writing is energy management.”

Oh, and there was so much more I missed–next year, I will clone myself–on editing and writing and querying and “unlocking plot.”

Thank you to Lit Youngstown director Karen Schubert and all who make it happen, year after year. And trust me, you won’t want to miss next year’s festival. Thank you also to Rebe Huntman for letting me use the beautiful photo collage she put together (now, go pre-order her gorgeous memoir).

Tell me in the comments, did you attend the festival? What was the highlight for you? What did I miss? Do you attend writing conferences in general, book fairs? What gets your creative juices flowing?

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New poem published by Trampoline Poetry

I’ve been operating far outside my comfort zone and way outside my fiction-writer lane lately.

Querying a novel will do that to a writer. Fiction-writing feels a little fraught when you’re trying to woo agents and presses with your fiction. So, I turned my attention to writing essays–and even a little poetry. Here’s:

“Satie Sestina: YouTube Comments on Gymnopedies”

Thanks to Trampoline Poetry‘s editor Justin Lacour. And many thanks to my writing critique group–present and past members alike–who, first, told me this long poem I was working on would work best as a sestina (a what?); and, second, gave me the permission to play with the form (just) a little.

If you’re interested, you can read my bio out at Trampoline Poetry, where I explain how the idea for this poem came to be. (Thank you, YouTube comments!)

Now, who else is a Satie fan?

More Rust Belt literary goodness soon. ~Rebecca

Take that New York Times: My not-list of the best books of vague parameters according to me

If there’s anything readers like more than a Top Reads list, it’s complaining about a Top Reads list. Earlier this summer, the New York Times published “The 100 Best Books of the 21st Century.” Remember that? Of course you do. Reddit basically blew up that day.

We all had definite feelings about said list. Namely, that it didn’t include genre fiction and books of poetry, the latter an egregious omission imo. It did include several of my favorites: Tayari Jones’s An American Marriage (gutting), Helen MacDonald’s H is For Hawk (gorgeous), Jhumpa Lahiri’s The Interpreter of Maladies (instructive in the very best way), Cormac McCarthy’s The Road (what’s a synonym for gutting?), Ann Patchett’s Bel Canto (magnificent), Elizabeth’s Strout’s Olive Kitteridge (sleepy in the best way), Marilynne Robinson’s Gilead (transcendent), and Donna Tartt’s The Goldfinch (masterful and also long).

Only a couple have I discussed here at Rust Belt Girl: Robinson’s Gilead (cue the car-sobbing) and the novel that came in at No. 1 on the NYT list: Elena Ferrante’s My Brilliant Friend. None of the books on the list that I’ve read could be described as Rust Belt books, so I protest! But not really.

The wonderful thing about Top Reads lists is that we avid readers read them, get mad, and then the maddening lists beget more lists. Which is great. After we got mad at the NYT, they featured another story, “Readers Respond to the ‘Best Books of the 21st Century,’” chock full of the books that should have been on the first list. I saw Best Books lists featuring Appalachian Reads and reading roundups galore. All this leads me to believe that there are never enough lists, the lists are never long enough, and yet they are also ALWAYS incomplete. There’s room for my book and there’s room for your book on those lists. So get to it, writers!

Really, my blog is my ever-changing (let’s say “curated,” cuz that sounds fancy) list. I’d love to know what your favorite book from my list is. (How about from your list?) And then Goodreads is my dump—everything goes there, unless I really hated it, in which case I probably DNF’ed anyway. Are we connected out there at the dump?

Recent (ly read) books that stunned this Rust Belt Girl but aren’t necessarily Rust Belt books are basically the books I keep thinking about and talking about: A Line in the World: A Year on the North Sea Coast by Dorthe Nors (let’s all read more essays in translation!); Sonata: A Memoir by Andrea Avery (lyrical, musical, and propulsive); The End of Drum-Time by Hanna Pylvainen (interestingly atmospheric); The Beginning Was the End: Devo in Ohio by Jade Dillinger and Akron’s own David Giffels (so that’s what New Wave was all about!?); and Shuggie Bain by Douglas Stuart (gutting x 12—what exactly is wrong with me?).

You see, once you get started list-making, it never stops.

Looking for a review or an author review–or even a little writerly advice (I try to take myself)? See my categories above. And find me on Goodreads, where I try to at least rank what I’ve read. Let’s be friends there and on FB and at all the places!

A review of Pittsburghese, Poems by Robert Gibb

By Karen J. Weyant

If you’ve ever visited Pittsburgh, you’ve likely encountered “Pittsburghese,” the local dialect of the people of Pittsburgh that distinguishes residents of the city from their Rust Belt neighbors. Pittsburghese is partially defined by dropping the words “to be” from certain phrases, such as The car needs washed instead of The car needs to be washed. It’s using words such as pop instead of soda, or buggy instead of shopping cart. Sure, many linguists may say that these examples are not pure Pittsburgh (my mother, for example, who grew up in rural Pennsylvania, always called shopping carts, buggies). But there is one word that always seems to be on the lips of Pittsburgh citizens and on the t-shirts found in city souvenir shops. That word is the second-person plural vernacular, Yinz, a contracted form of “you ones” or “you’ins.” 

It’s the word Yinz that echoed through my head as I read the latest poetry collection by Robert Gibb. Pittsburghese is an elegy for a place: Homestead, Pennsylvania, a borough located about 11 miles southeast of Pittsburgh. Homestead is rich with labor history, but like so many places, saw a huge economic decline in the 1970s and 1980s. With every image, I am reminded of the tiny Rust Belt town of my youth and the importance of story and memory.

The poems in Gibb’s collection take us through an industrial world struggling to survive, and thus, the overarching images in most of these poems have to do with debris, or rust – a word that is celebrated in the poem “The Etymologies of Rust.” In this poem, the narrator describes the red-orange oxidation that appears in so many poems written about the Rust Belt as a “slow, remorseless kind of oxidation” that is “red, orange or tawny. The ferrous of flakes.” It’s a perfect description for those of us who know rust intimately as the corrosion that flakes metal mailboxes, parts of bicycles and chain-linked fences. For Gibb, the color of rust may be beautiful, but the effects of rust are devastating for it “cankers like corrosion on idled iron.”

Physical landscapes, often held together by rust, are at the heart of many of Gibb’s poems. As someone who grew up in a small factory town, I recognize some of the images while others are new. I don’t know the slag pots described in “Deskulling the Slag Pots,” but I know the descriptions of derelict phone booths and furniture being auctioned off from fancy buildings. No matter the image, there is a story. And for many readers, the stories may be a bit familiar. For example, in the poem “Elegy for the Park Theater” the narrator tells us about a time when “we’d be plunged into darkness/Beneath the beam of light figures rode/Onto the screen.”  In this world, the images are “mantis-like invaders from Mars” and “several avatars of Tarzan.” Later, he explains that the theatre became a roller skating rink. The transformation of space is common in places struggling to survive. In Gibb’s world, the theater turns into a roller skating rink – in my world, the single movie theatre found in my tiny hometown was turned into a hardware store before it was finally torn down. Other stories can be found in such poems as “The Play of Memory of Childhood Spaces,” where a narrator remembers a class trip to St. Anthony’s Chapel in Pittsburgh, or in “Voice-Over,” where the narrator recounts working different shifts in the mills when he “never got used to eating dinner/First thing in the morning, heading to work/At bedtime.” 

Clearly, the narrator is present in many of these poems, as if drawing from personal memory, but other poems reflect more historical memory, taking their inspiration from photos and works of arts. For instance, in “Homestead, ca 1929, Oil on Canvas,” the poet describes a John Kane painting where “Homestead/Is crowded rows of houses/Steel mills billowing/identical plumes of smoke.” The first lines may not be especially picturesque, but later, the poem captures the artist at work, “painting scenes on the sides of boxcars during the lunchbreaks/at work.” The final lines in this poem are a commentary on what is to come for this world, as the “slurry is just right” because the economy is “about to tank as if in another country.”  In another poem, “Worker, Steel Mill,” Gibb focuses on the human being seen in a 1955 photograph by W. Eugene Smith, by explaining that at first, he is “anonymous in those glare-filled goggles.”  Later, in the poem, however, there is praise for this man who is “garbed/to be garbed in fire” and who works for “weeks have been divided into shifts” all because “of the cost of production.” 

In spite of my love of story and image, my favorite poem is one that interrogates etymology, echoing the title of the collection. In “Pittsburghese” the poet explores the word jaggers which is “vernacular for brambles.” Jaggers are thorns, and if one is caught in jaggers, it is painful, but it is very possible to lift the thorns away. Still, there are the ones that “splintered beneath your skin” that are the most painful, even when the jagger is removed. There is a strong metaphor here: pain may be left behind, even when the source of that pain is removed, but resilience stands. And with this resilience is some kind of hope for a less painful future. It’s this type of hope that is found in every poem in this collection – even those poems that recall painful pasts. 

In the preface to this collection, Anita Skeen, Wheelbarrow Books Series Editor, quotes Thomas Wolfe by saying “You can’t go home again.”  She explains, “I would argue that in poems and in memory, you can.”  Skeen goes on to say that the images remind her of her childhood home located near Charleston, West Virginia. Anyone who grew up in the Rust Belt will be reminded of home, and perhaps inspired to write about that home through the lens of history, memory, and image.


Pittsburghese

Poems By Robert Gibb

Wheelbarrow Books $15.95


Karen J. Weyant‘s poems and essays have been published in Chautauqua, Crab Creek Review, Crab Orchard Review, Cream City Review, Fourth River, Lake Effect, Rattle, River Styx, Slipstream, and Whiskey Island.  The author of two poetry chapbooks, her first full-length collection is Avoiding the Rapture. She is an Associate Professor of English at Jamestown Community College in Jamestown, New York.  She lives, reads, and writes in Warren, Pennsylvania.

My interview with Amy Jo Burns, author of Mercury


Let’s begin with a sample paragraph from Amy Jo’s stunning literary (also mystery) family saga:

Spring was breaking through in lilac buds and daffodil shoots, but winter held on. Tufts of dirty snow clung to curbs, and porch steps, and parking lots. The heat had stopped working in the Citation, and Marley shivered. Theo was bundled in the backseat; she caught a glimpse of him in the rearview mirror. Then her eye snagged something else behind her–someone limping from a snowbank into the intersection. Marley slowed to a stop and turned around.

Whew. Good stuff.

Amy Jo, your main character in this Western-PA-set novel is Marley, whom we first meet when she’s 17. You left your Western-PA hometown for college around that age. What was it like to write this book and “inhabit” Marley’s character in a place (and time) similar to the one you were raised in? And how similar is your real-life family to Marley’s found family?

    Marley is a really special character to me. When I was creating her, I took the qualities I love most about my best friends from home and put them into her character. Her willingness to step into someone else’s messiness, her ability to tell the truth in such a loving way, and her desire to build a business with her own creative stamp on it are all qualities I really admire about my oldest friends. Marley showcases what I think real resilience actually looks like. It isn’t perfection or misery or loneliness—it just comes through in a big-hearted, flawed human who shows up for the people in her life. 

    The Joseph family in the novel is like mine in that we’re both a family of roofers—which means both houses were full of grand storytellers, brave hearts, and lots of tar-stained jeans. The house I imagined the Josephs living in was inspired by the old Victorian house my grandparents used to own in my hometown. I’d always loved that house and couldn’t imagine any other place a family of roofers would live. The characters in Mercury come from my imagination, but the bond they feel with each other—the sometimes too-close intimacy they have with one another is absolutely something any member of my extended family can relate to. When it comes down to it, I’d say both families care about the same thing—keeping people safe under roofs and on top of them.

    This novel is mostly set in the fictionalized town of Mercury. How did you go about constructing this place, this “forgotten Rust Belt town.” Did you use Pinterest boards or clip photos from magazines? Was there map-making involved to mark where the salon, post office, and library stand? And, as the daughter of real-life roofers, do you picture this town from an aerial/rooftop view?

    Mercury is heavily inspired by my own hometown, which I also wrote about in my memoir Cinderland. When I started writing the early pages of this book, I knew it had to be set in Mercury—a place I know, love, and left. So most of the early “research” came from my own memory, and then I squared it with pictures from the 1990s and also by talking with my parents. My dad drew a map of the church steeple and attic (which both play an important role in the story), and I talked with my mom about what it was like to help build a roofing business from an administrative perspective. It was really special to get to share a bit of this project with them, especially since so much of the book is about what it means to belong and how we claim home for ourselves.

    I hadn’t imagined my hometown from any aerial views until I started putting characters on roofs pretty early in the process of drafting the book, and it was the coolest thing to envision this place anew from an entirely fresh perspective. I was able to find a few aerial videos of my hometown to watch, which really helped me fill in the landscape for what these characters find when they’re up higher than everyone else.

    I’d call this book a literary family saga; however, there is also a lot of romance—some steamy! What’s your best tip for writing romance or sex that deepens character and moves plot?

    I would say my best tip is that sex is never just sex. Falling in love is one of the most monumental things we experience as humans—it shows us at our best and our worst—and I think it’s really important to reflect it in literature. When I’m writing romantic scenes, I’m always considering what each character is risking about themselves in a very unique way—are they sharing something no one else knows? Are they saying one thing and thinking another? What is it about falling in (or out of) love that changes how they see themselves? What past events have shaped how a person approaches their most intimate moments? Those scenes are such a great way to show what a character deeply wants and what they fear, whether they’re aware of it or not. And when all that juicy backstory collides with someone else who is just as complicated—it’s fictional gold!

    Like in your last (gorgeous) novel, Shiner, you explore profound female friendships in Mercury. Can you talk about how you developed the friendship on the page between Marley and Jade? When you’re writing, do you do character studies/background/backstory with detailed info–any that doesn’t make it into the book?

    Mostly what I do when I’m building relationships between characters is think about it A LOT. I write many drafts over a long period of time and throw out a lot of material, usually because that’s how I’m getting to know the characters. Scenes will start off as sketches and they get more detailed as I learn who the characters are. Many of the scenes between Jade and Marley felt very cliché for a long time as I was working, and I’d have to go back in and re-work them to go deeper so they felt earned and true. 

    I am such an impatient person (what a terrible trait for a writer!), so character studies always feel like they’re detracting from the real heat of the story I’m working on. The only thing I usually do outside of drafting itself is create a playlist for each book that I write, and I’ll include songs for each of the characters. It helps me track down their psyches, their moods, their secrets. You can learn a lot about a person if you know what songs they’re listening to when they’re alone.

    In this novel you touch on dementia. What kind of research was involved there? As this book is set in the 90s mostly, was there any other, historical research you had to conduct for verisimilitude?

    I had a family member with a form of dementia (though under different circumstances than those in the book), so I used that as the basis for building it in the novel. I decided not to do much clinical research on it because I wanted to portray it through the eyes of a family who isn’t sure what is going on. So often we don’t get the answers we are looking for in real life when it comes to medical diagnoses, and it was really important to me to give that truth a lot of space in the novel. 

    Motherhood is portrayed in a very real, and sometimes heartbreaking, way in this novel. Marley’s mother-in-law says, “This life is unmerciful to mothers.” You’ve got two young children at home. How has your writing practice (and product) changed since becoming a mom? And, follow-up, what is your favorite novel for exploring themes of motherhood?

    The biggest difference in my writing practice is that I have to keep my working hours to match my kids’ schedule. It is GIGANTICALLY easier now that they’re both in school, though I rarely get done what I’d like to in the course of a day. I remember when my son was an infant and my writing sessions were so short, I thought I’d never finish the book I was working on, which turned out to be Shiner. Sometimes my writing sessions would only produce a few hundred words. I had to learn to talk myself through it and say, “Maybe no one will ever see it, but I’d still like to try.” And I’d repeat that to myself over and over when my daily frustrations came. And the book got done!

    In terms of my favorite book about motherhood, I once attended a talk by Nicole Krauss just after she’d published Great House. Someone in the audience asked her how she was able to write and be a mother, and she said, “I wouldn’t have been able to write this book if I hadn’t become a mother.” It was so encouraging to me, as I was contemplating how I might have kids and continue to write. That story inspires me still.

    A lot of the plot of Mercury centers around the family’s church—but not necessarily around worship. No spoilers, but can you talk about how religion, faith, and or belief works in the world of this novel—and maybe also in your own life?

    My faith is a huge part of my life and my creative process. I think maybe writing books is a form of prayer for me. What I love about it is that the page becomes a place for my uncensored thoughts, my questions, my frustrations, and—most powerfully—the things that I love and I think are worth fighting for. It feels like a quiet place where I can meet God without judgment, where I don’t have to be any other version of myself but the real one. Also, I do a lot of listening when I’m writing which feels very peaceful.

    In this particular story, many of the characters have an idea of what “religion” is, but what they’re all hungry for is faith. Faith in a God who loves them just as they are, and faith in each other. I like to think each of them encounters God in an unexpectedly meaningful way in the book, and usually it’s through they way they learn to love each other.

    For those of us who aren’t just readers but who are also writers, what’s your favorite generative prompt for a writing day when the words just aren’t coming?

    I absolutely recommend starting with a memory from childhood you can’t get out of your head. Try retelling it to yourself from an adult perspective (which you can interpret any way you like). I actually began Mercury in just this way—the opening scene of the book is a memory of mine from a little league game when I was around nine years old. This exercise was how Waylon’s character first came to life.

    Tell us how the reaction to Mercury has been on your visits to libraries, bookstores, etc.?

    It’s been really wonderful. When Shiner came out in spring of 2020, there were no stores open, so getting to visit libraries and bookstores has been the best thing about publishing Mercury. My favorite thing is hearing about readers’ favorite characters and how they saw themselves in the story. I love it when that happens in a book I’m reading, so getting to provide that experience for fellow readers is a real gift.

    What are you writing and reading right now? And what are your kids’ favorite children’s books, lately?

      I love this question! This year I’ve been trying to take my time and read longer books (which I’m calling “biggies”), so right now I’m reading two—Iron Flame by Rebecca Yarros and East of Eden by John Steinbeck. I’m really enjoying them both. Right now my son, who is nine, is loving the entire Percy Jackson universe by Rick Riordan, and my six-year-old daughter is very into Dog Man by Dav Pilkey and the Max Meow series by John Gallagher. I love seeing them read!

      Writing-wise, right now I’m working on a novel about the true story behind a famous country-folk singer’s disappearance. I don’t know if it will be my next book or not, but I’m really enjoying the work itself. Thank you so much, Rebecca!


      Amy Jo Burns is the author of the memoir Cinderland and the novel Shiner, which was a Barnes & Noble Discover Pick, NPR Best Book of the year, and “told in language as incandescent as smoldering coal,” according to The New York Times. Her latest novel, Mercury, is a Barnes & Noble Book Club Pick, a Book of the Month Pick, a People Magazine Book of the Week, and an Editor’s Choice selection in The New York Times. Amy Jo’s writing has appeared in The Paris Review Daily, Elle, Good Housekeeping, and the anthology Not That Bad.

      You can find her on Instagram at @burnsamyjo.


      Mercury

      By Amy Jo Burns

      Celadon Books

      Many thanks to Amy Jo Burns for sharing her insights and time–and kid book recs– with us here at Rust Belt Girl. I know I can’t wait to read what’s next from Amy Jo!

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      A review of Avoiding the Rapture by Karen J. Weyant

      By Marjorie Maddox

      In Karen J. Weyant’s first full-length book of poetry, Avoiding the Rapture, there is no avoiding the evocative and sometimes contradictory landscape and convictions of the Rust Belt. In a town defined by its bars and churches, river and railroad tracks, closed factories and forbidden swimming holes, Weyant gives us both the desire to leave and the need to cleave. No matter our background, she makes this space ours—ownership and rebellion a familiar if not always pleasant home.

      We begin with belief so strong it takes hold of a town—“Every girl I knew got religion/at the same time they caught Disco Fever.” Salvation is a type of escape to be embraced or rejected. “Facing uncertain futures,” the poet explains, “we waited to be whisked away in [both kinds of] sparkle.” And yet by “avoiding the rapture,” she counters, “[w]hen everything disappears, everything you see will be yours,” a mixed motivator for a place that when you aren’t reveling in it, you’re scheming a quick departure.

      Within this back-and-forth identity quest, the narrator looks for signs and visions in roadkill rising from the dead, in Jesus in dryer steam at the local laundromat, in “one of the Horsemen/in the hind leg of a Holstein cow,” and in “saints/in real estate signs buckling under buckshot.” There are also “man-made miracles” where the narrator­­ “dump[s] grape juice into Gallagher Run,/hoping the muddy swirl would turn into wine,/. . . [or] pretend[s] the stale angel food cake. . . was really manna.” 

      Woven throughout the book is a sequence that often begins “The Girl Who…” and perceptively defines identity. “The Girl Who Parted Mill Creek with Her Toes” offers nature as one way to “ignore the grown-up talk/of factory closings, lost jobs, and foreclosures.” This path also allows for leaving the church while retaining its lore and, at times, alure. For example, the post-industrial mass exodus of families is linked to the narrator’s Exodus-like parting of the creek with her toes. Likewise, in another poem, an abandoned and deteriorating church evolves into a new type of sanctuary.

      Throughout, insects swarm, dazzle, or sting. There is “the drone/of factories in a metallic round of cricket song” and “june bugs hurling against back doors.” Not unlike the town’s inhabitants, in “To the Girl Who Talked to Summer Insects” “[s]ome insects were silent, others angry or lost.” Elsewhere, mayflies—“ghost stories [come] alive”—become reminders “we lived among the dead.” The plague-like buzzing of blackflies usher in arguments over money and heat. “June/ [is] heavy with horseflies. . . .cicada shells. . .cracked under our feet.” In dreams, butterflies get “caught in backyard grills”; in real life yellowjackets die in/escape from a flaming nest; the narrator rescues grasshoppers from a ball of ice. Eventually, end-of-the-world prophesies drown out miracles.  

      In this way, even the word “miracles” begins to lose its mystery. In family life, the word becomes synonymous with describing impossible situations: a truck that “would need a miracle to get through the summer,” a sister who “would need a miracle to get through high school,” and a father who “would need/a miracle to get a job at his age.” 

      As tensions increase in the run-down town, so does the narrator’s desire for flight. “[W]e planned our new world. . . . we knew we had to leave,” she recalls. The coming-of-age departures are small and large: heels, makeup, drinking, boyfriends with the nicknames of beers, the recognition that, on many levels, “every ripple has danger” and that [r]eal girls learn to toughen/the soles of their feet. . . .Accept . . .fate.” 

      That doesn’t mean, however, that there aren’t moments of daring and flight. Through sheer determination, the narrator “[spins] in the August heat until [she] could fly.” Bravely, she catches bees or reaches out to touch a two-headed calf. We watch as her father helps her bury a dead bird. Always drawn to water, she listens to rivers talk and “sw[ims] late at night/in the gravel pit pond.” She counsels, “Follow the fireflies.”  

      In these ways and others, Avoiding the Rapture whoops and hollers with independence and survival. It is a stirring, well-crafted ode to place, where “girls still ride the beds of pickup trucks . . . .[and] learn how to catch maple seeds/in their teeth, and how to spit them out.” It is a depiction of individuals who, even if they don’t learn to fly, learn to balance while wind “comb[s] through their long hair.”

      Here’s to the young women of the Rust Belt, fiercely and perceptively portrayed in Karen J. Weyant’s new collection, Avoiding the Rapture.  


      Avoiding the Rapture

      By Karen J. Weyant

      Riot in Your Throat $17


      Karen J. Weyant‘s poems and essays have been published in Chautauqua, Crab Creek Review, Crab Orchard Review, Cream City Review, Fourth River, Lake Effect, Rattle, River Styx, Slipstream, and Whiskey Island.  The author of two poetry chapbooks, her first full-length collection is Avoiding the Rapture. She is an Associate Professor of English at Jamestown Community College in Jamestown, New York.  She lives, reads, and writes in Warren, Pennsylvania.


      Professor of English at the Lock Haven campus of Commonwealth University, Marjorie Maddox has published 14 collections of poetry—including Transplant, Transport, Transubstantiation (Yellowglen Prize); Begin with a Question (International Book and Illumination Book Award Winners); and the Shanti Arts ekphrastic collaborations Heart Speaks, Is Spoken For (with photographer Karen Elias) and In the Museum of My Daughter’s Minda collaboration with her artist daughter, Anna Lee Hafer (www.hafer.work) and others. How Can I Look It Up When I Don’t Know How It’s Spelled? Spelling Mnemonics and Grammar Tricks (Kelsay) and Seeing Things (Wildhouse) are forthcoming in 2024. In addition, she has published the story collection What She Was Saying (Fomite) and 4 children’s and YA books. With Jerry Wemple, she is co-editor of Common Wealth: Contemporary Poets on Pennsylvania and the forthcoming Keystone: Contemporary Poets on Pennsylvania (PSU Press) and is assistant editor of Presence. She hosts Poetry Moment at WPSU. See www.marjoriemaddox.com 


      Rebecca here, with many thanks to Marjorie for this beautiful review of Karen’s poetry collection. I can’t wait to dig in! What are you reading and writing this month, as we start working our way through the new year? Let’s discuss in the comments.

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      Welcome to the 2023 Rust Belt Girl round-up…

      I interrupt this Covid haze–mine, yes, I was gifted the virus for Christmas–to present a round-up of all the Rust Belt Girl goodness in 2023, made possible by you amazing readers and followers. (For you math and science types, here are your facts and stats):

      2023 total views: 5,069, from 3,575 viewers, for 231 likes, and 170 comments. Thank you for engaging!

      Most Viewed Post (MVP) 2023: A stellar review of Jason Irwin’s poetry collection, The History of Our Vagrancies, by Marjorie Maddox (Side note: I met Jason in person for the first time and reconnected with Marjorie in October at the Fall Literary Festival in Youngstown.)

      2nd Place for MVP 2023 (and tops for most–and most heartwarming–comments): “Mad Dog, “Steel Poet,” Tim Russell, a literary reflection by poet and publisher Larry Smith. Thank you to Larry for being such a pillar of this literary community. (I also met Tim’s widow, Jodi, for the first time, in October–there were hugs!)

      3rd Place for MVP 2023: The Rabbit Hutch‘s Rust Belt Renaissance, a review by Emma Riva, an author and art writer living in Pittsburgh, who is also the founder and EIC of Petrichor, Pittsburgh’s art scene magazine. Check it out!

      Most Viewed Author Interview: My interview with John W. Kropf, author of Color Capital of the World. (Though John and I both live in the Greater Washington D.C. area, as luck would have it, we were in Ohio at the same time earlier this year, and I was able to meet him and his lovely wife Eileen at a reading and book-signing not far from where Color Capital takes place.)

      And don’t miss all the other 2023 bloggo goodness, including interviews with Mitch James, author of the rural noir novel Seldom Seen; Valerie Neiman, author of YA novel The Lonely Backwater; and David Giffels, author of The Beginning Was the End: Devo in Ohio. (This makes three interviews with David at Rust Belt Girl, some kind of interviewing trifecta!)

      Then there was John W. Miller’s beautiful guest essay: From Belgium to the Rust Belt. (In a fun coincidence, John and I ended up in the same storytelling course this fall–the writing world is a small one.)

      And in other fun blog news, my 2022 review, Enlarging “Rust Belt lit” and Megan Giddings’ The Women Could Fly, was picked up by Belt Magazine in 2023.

      2023 felt pretty good and creative outside of the blog, too: I published a short story and a poem(!) and started querying a novel (a couple of you blog followers and friends beta-read!). I am infinitely lucky and grateful to cross paths with as many of you as I do–even if only on these interwebs.

      I think we deserve a happy and healthy 2024 with all the writerly and readerly connections we desire. Those of you local to these D.C./Baltimore parts, find me on January 14 at EC Poetry & Prose’s Salon Series. Thank you again to Patti, my fellow blogger–and extraordinary poet and spoken word artist “little pi”–for inviting me to read!

      As for Rust Belt Girl, keep in mind that I love a guest post–author interview, book review, or essay on the writing life and beyond–so hit me up.

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      (Off to nap…again.)

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